AOE Tanking - How to beat the Palys

Intiyall · Posts: 29 Join date: 2009-08-12

That's it. My second spec is prot, and have really bad moments when have to retain agro of more than 3 mobs... and clicking about 4-5 bottons to generate initial aoe agro... while in the meantime paly use his multi-taunt-one-click botton and enjoy the glory.

I hate that... how did U do it? Ideas, i need ideas.. Question

Malacor · Posts: 73 Join date: 2009-08-10

get the glyph that makes devastate/sunder apply it to more than one target.
bloodrage
charge
SHOCKWAVE.
THUNDERCLAP
No, Tab+Devastate
Tab+Devastate
Tab+Devastate
Tab+Devastate

oh yea...and throw in some shield slams

Intiyall · Posts: 29 Join date: 2009-08-12

Great stuff.

What i was doing...

- Throwing Axe
- Charge
- Thunderclap
- Shockwave
- Demoralizing Shout
- Devastate x 3 (enough que stack 5, i have the glyph)
- Shield Slam, Revenge , Thunderclap rutine...

BUT i finish it with no rage (not using bloodrage) and some mobs go away... (no Tab + Devastate).

I will test it today. Wink

Lambfries · Posts: 9 Join date: 2009-08-14

So is the key really to tab+devastate through all the mobs...even if the glyph is distributing sunder to them from strikes on the main target? Seems pretty simple...

**Blackthought** · Posts: 74 Join date: 2009-07-31

LOL how I missed this post is beyond me, I was writing to ask the same question on AoE Agro and went to post it and saw this. What’s funny though is that I was told that the sunder thing didn’t work via devastate, I now know I need to smack the shyt out of a certain friend when I see him for screwing me on that.
Well hell with not having to use the alt tab thing as often I would imagine you could work in a cleave from time to time as well no? Maybe in between tclaps.

Malacor do you know if re-applying Demo shout before it goes down has the same threat generation as applying it the first time? Like is it something you should be doing to help “hold” agro, like tclap does? Or is it only good for a one shot type thing.

Intiyall · Posts: 29 Join date: 2009-08-12

Blackthought wrote:

Malacor do you know if re-applying Demo shout before it goes down has the same threat generation as applying it the first time? Like is it something you should be doing to help “hold” agro, like tclap does? Or is it only good for a one shot type thing.

I wanna share to U guys that yesterdays i tested the Tab+Devastate routine... and IT WORKS. Smile

- Throwing Axe (always forget its real name)
- Charge
- Thunderclap
- Shockwave
- Tab + Devastate routine (till back to skull/square)
- Shiled Slam, Revenge, Thunderclap (...¿Demo Shout?)

But i have the same question of Black: what about Demo shout? has the same threat generation that aplying the first time? Worth including him in the rotation or it's just a lack of thrat generation?

BTW tks for your advices, you're great and this forum RULES! Very Happy

Malacor · Posts: 73 Join date: 2009-08-10

I use it, its not much rage and it helps keep you alive

**Blackthought** · Posts: 74 Join date: 2009-07-31

So then would it be safe to say a good rotation is...
HEROIC THROW
Charge
(I use Shockwave here to stun groups)
TClap
Demo shout
Devistate Spam

Ok I did notice something about devastate as well.
Lets say you have 3 mobs you’re fighting.
If you select 1 mob and hit him twice devastate will stack two sunders on 2 of the mobs completely ignoring the other. So keep this in mind because in a group larger than 3 mobs you can spam dev twice then tab over twice usually to the target that HASN”T HAD a sunder applied, hit him 3 times to stack the sunders on him (this will fill the sunder on one of the other mobs too) then get back to your main target.

This weekend I lost agro once on a pull in HToC as a result of an over pull on the mobs just before the second fight and I only lost agro because the dumb ass hunter was AoEing 6 mobs 3 of them having JUST run at me.

Marking something with a skull USED TO mean that you focused fire on the skull and then near the end went AoE. Now it’s like people don’t give a shyt and AoE as soon as I start a pull.

I used demo in rotation too and it appears to continue to generate threat.

Malacor · Posts: 73 Join date: 2009-08-10

They way my tank set is glyphed (see my geming and glyphing guide)
If im tanking 3, 1 dev puts 2 sunders on my target and 1 on his closest friend, so by Tab-Deving over and over i can sunder then amm it works like this

Mob 1 Mob 2 Mob 3
0 2 1 -- 1st round, after 1 devastate. now we Tab
0 3 3 --Tab again
2 4 3 --Tab
2 4 5 -- Tab
4 5 5

those numbers represent the sunder stacks. so after just 4 attacks, i can have almost a 5 stack on each.