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PostSubject: Prot, Prot Burst... Warrior Prot PvP   Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:01 pm

A Contination from
http://www.nomorenoob.com/2009/08/prot-prot-burst-prot-pvp.html

But what if they focus on the warlock?
Ok first off NOONE EVER does that when given the choice of a two warriors and a lock because guess what...in arena a warrior without a healer is just asking for it.
Second if they do, let’s say a rogue pops up...you STUN HIS ASS. And let the lock burst HIM down first. If there are two rogues you have intimidating shouts X 2.

The thing you have to remember is that because of things like heroic throw + gag order you can pretty much negate a caster, be he healer or DPS.
With disarm a pally is nothing as is a dk, as is a warrior.

IF spell reflect works as I suspect it might I really do mean you can send back a spell to it’s owner nearly ever 5 seconds...or every 4.5 seconds when glyphed for it (which you will be doing), this includes fears, and cyclones too.

With the ability to turn a very BURSTY situation into a wet noodle slapping contest your BURST person, with a little assistance from you, can really hurt some people.

Do me a favor, go through the prot tree and look at the skill sets and talents, after I did this I couldn’t help but say...got damn that’s a pvp talent I wish I had.

I already know I can 1v1 and completely OWN everything but a disc priest (aye the bubble still be my bane) (oh but with two shield slams you could possibly remove this bubble...if the tool tip works correctly as it’s supposed to dispel ONE magic effect) In addition here is the note from the 3.2 patch concerning shield slam

Shield Slam: The benefit from additional block value this ability gains is now subject to diminishing returns. Diminishing returns occur once block value exceeds 30 times the player's level and caps the maximum damage benefit from shield block value at 34.5 times the player's level.

What I read in this is that Shield slam still CAN really hit things harder than you can hope to imagine, which tells me that if gemmed for strength and if you have a “shield block” trinket a 10k shield slam is not “out there”...I’ve hit several times for 8k with shield slam before in battlegrounds and average around 4-5k myself (i.e. a low end chaos bolt)

Look, I’m not saying it WOULD work. All I’m saying is that the “elements” of a good team are there. Burst, healing debuff and MASSIVE amounts of damage mitigation.

Oh and while you can’t put TWO Vigilances on ONE target you can put Two vigilances on two targets...

Does anyone else see the possibilities here?

Oh does warbringer remove snare effects still?
Uh yes my friend, I believe it does.

Come on and tell me that the idea doesn’t at the very minimum intrigue you. On paper and with a practiced well coordinated team this would be a casters nightmare...even the dreaded mage bastards because warbringer removes icy feet...and as I said before bubbles...uh shield slam removes bubbles does it not?
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PostSubject: Re: Prot, Prot Burst... Warrior Prot PvP   Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:23 pm

Your 3rd bust would have to be VERY GEARED to pull it off...if you fail in the 1st few minuets, i can see this being a long, long match.

You also have to keep that burst alive, once the team figures it out, they're gonna do everything they can to kill him. With that many stuns, it may work though.
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PostSubject: Re: Prot, Prot Burst... Warrior Prot PvP   Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:49 pm

Yeah I’m telling you that most people don’t expect to see a prot warrior. And really the burst doesn’t have to be uberly geared I’d say hateful with a decent weapon. Again the reason being is that almost immediately you take 1 dps out of the equation, or a healer. Which leaves the burst with a few cast to do some serious damage. Against PURE dps classes that’s all it really takes because in Prot it’s a lot harder to Kite a warrior around than say in arms or fury.

When I ran with my shammy as elemental and me as prot we always focused on the healer first, burnt his ass to the ground and then just ate up the remaining guy.

When teams would focus on the shammy first he would blast them back or I would fear them and it generally only took a few seconds to get either the attacker to near death status. A large key on healer groups was to silence the healer via heroic throw, which is something people don’t do nearly enough when in prot form because it’s generally an “agro” builder/opening move type skill.

I know as an arms warrior I’ve faced a double Prot team a few times and it was utter madness. I spent half the time with no weapon and the other half with no heals. I split with them both times but I suspect it was because they focused on me and not my healer. Which when we fought them the second time they did focus on my healer and soundly stomped his ass to the ground.

A shaman at level 80 in pvp gear is only going to have what...25k health? When they focused on the healer I tried to fear and it was wasted because they used the fear immune thing that I can’t remember for some reason (berserkers rage? I believe) so It didn’t even phase them. They both had the foresite to ALREADY have popped shield wall so my bladestorm pretty much fell on def ears.

My healer was either stunned or silenced for the 8 seconds he was alive.

Literally the rotation he said was, heroic throw, charge, conc blow, shield slam, shield slam, devastate(which only takes 2 hits to drop your armor to near nada), conc blow, revenge shield slam, shield slam, shockwave, heroic strike, heroic throw(from second warrior) then shockwave again.

They didn’t even have to hamstring him. He was able to move for a minute and tried to heal but couldn’t...he was silenced.

After he dropped my weapon was taken from me. I tried to go toe to toe with them but it didn’t matter. Theonly thing I DID have going for me was the stuns were sorta keeping me alive because of the build I was in but it definitely wasn’t for very long. Seriously man shield slams can really hurt.
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